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Debbie Sue Carter knew she was in trouble.  Someone was at her home at 2:00 am that made her feel uncomfortable enough to call her friend to come to get her.  Before her friend left, Debbie called her back and told her not to come over.  The next day Debbie was found raped and murdered.  She had been brutalized with a ketchup bottle and her killer had written messages all over her body and apartment. Two men, Ronald Williamson and Dennis Fritz were convicted of the murder.  Twelve years later, they were exonerated and her real killer was brought to justice.  Listen to find out who tortured, raped, and murdered Debbie Sue Carter.

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October 12, 2020

EP53: The Wichita Massacre

During a cold, wintery week in December 2002, brothers Reginald and Jonathan Carr decided to go on a crime spree that ended with 5 people dead and 2 others mentally scarred for life. The Carr Brothers’ final heinous act ended on December 15, where they shot 5 friends execution-style in a soccer field in Wichita, Kansas. The brothers failed to make sure their victims were all dead, and one of the women survived. The survivor told a traumatizing story of being raped, and forced rape between victims. If it wasn’t for this eyewitness, we may have never known all the details of the Wichita Massacre. Listen to this week's episode: The Wichita Massacre.

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Almost every true crime addict knows about the infamous Louisiana serial killer Derrick Todd Lee.  However, most people have never heard of Louisiana’s other serial killer: Nathaniel Code.  Nathaniel Code had a unique ritual that linked him to at least eight murders but his true victim count is estimated to be double that amount.  What made his crimes so unique that even the FBI had never seen anything like that before?  Listen now to find out.

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September 28, 2020

EP51: The Dark Strangler

Earle Nelson was the first serial killer in the U.S. to get widespread media notoriety throughout the United States, Canada and Australia. During 1926-27, he killed at least 22 people, and most of them were classified as “sex murders”—meaning Earle derived sexual pleasure during the killing. Earle denied responsibility for the murders until his last dying breath—which was taken at the gallows of San Quentin Prison. Listen to this week’s episode to learn more about Earle’s depraved and horrendous crimes and what ultimately lead to his capture.

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September 21, 2020

EP50: The Death of Deanna Cook

Imagine being attacked and calling 911 during it.  Would you feel a spark of hope that you might be saved? Deanna Cook was on the phone with 911 for 17 minutes, but due to mishaps with the system, the police didn’t arrive until almost an hour later.  When they got there, no one came to the door, so they left.  Three days later her concerned family went to her house looking for her only to discover her body floating in the bathtub.  This is the heartbreaking story of the death of Deanna Cook. 

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September 14, 2020

EP49: The Lake Elsinore Killer

In the late 1980s and early 1990s, the bodies of young women (many were believed to be sex workers) were showing up around the Lake Elsinore, California area. As the body count was piling up the police began to realize that they had a serial killer in the area. Each murder victim underwent unspeakable horrors—some of the women suffered greatly and their bodies evidenced this fact. When police finally tracked down a viable suspect, everything seemed to fall into place--especially when the killer had kept so many souvenirs of his victims. Listen to this week’s episode to find out about the horrible crimes of serial killer William Lester Suff.

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In January of 2007, Channon Christian was a beautiful and intelligent 21-year-old sociology major who
studied at the University of Knoxville in Tennessee. She had been dating 23-year-old Christopher
Newsom for about two months when they decided to have dinner and then go to a party one Saturday
night. They never made it to the party because they were carjacked at an apartment complex. What
transpired after their kidnapping was one of the most brutal and horrific crimes that has ever occurred
in Knoxville.  Listen to the horrific story of the deaths of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom.

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In May 1991, Sabina Kulakowski was found dead outside of her farmhouse, as it burned to the ground. She had been beaten, stabbed, strangled and there were bite marks all over her body. A week prior to her death, a man named Roy Brown had been released from jail after serving time making threats to the Cayuga County, New York Department of Human Services. Roy was Suspect #1, because had threatened to kill everyone at the office when his daughter had been taken from him and placed in foster care. Despite his arrest and conviction for Sabina’s death, Roy didn’t do it and had to solve her murder from behind bars, before he was released after serving 15 long years behind bars. Listen to this week’s episode to find out how Roy’s life changed after his wrongful conviction.

 

 

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https://cnycentral.com/news/local/roy-brown-wrongfully-convicted-in-cayuga-county-murder-passes-away-at-58

 

https://www.syracuse.com/news/2011/04/roy_brown_a_free_man_now_back.html

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/24/nyregion/24brown.html

 

https://www.law.umich.edu/special/exoneration/Pages/casedetail.aspx?caseid=3064

 

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On May 31, 2000, Nineteen-year-old Jill Behrman, went missing while riding her bike in Bloomington, Indiana. A local woman named Wendy Owings, and two of her shady friends confessed to 46 people that they murdered Jill. Wendy provided a detailed confession to the police and passed a polygraph test regarding her account of the crime. Wendy's confession lead the police to drain Salt River, where they found evidence corroborating her story; however, they didn't have enough to make an arrest and they still hadn't found Jill's body. Three years later, a hunter found Jill's remains in a densely overgrown wooded area and the entire case got turned upside down. The police no longer focused on Wendy and her friends, and instead arrested another local man, John Myers II. In 2006, he was tried, convicted, and sentenced to 65 years in prison. In 2019, his conviction was overturned. So who killed Jill Behrman?

 

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August 17, 2020

EP45: Hunting for Innocence

In the late 1990s, in and around Sacramento, California, James Daveggio and his girlfriend, Michelle Michaud were meth-heads that were obsessed with local serial killers, Gerald and Charlene Gallego. Determined to make their mark like their idols, James and Michelle began a path of destruction that began with committing heinous rape and incest crimes and ended with the torture and death of 21-year-old Vanessa Sampson. Listen to this week’s episode to hear all about the devastation caused by this monstrous duo.

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In January of 2008, Denise Amber Lee was a 21-year-old stay-at-home mother to two young children living in North Port, Florida.   While Denise Lee's husband was at work, a man entered their home in the middle of the day and kidnapped her while she was watching her two boys.  Five people called 911 regarding the crime, one of those people was the victim, Denise Lee.  Listen to all the 911 calls and find exactly what transpired on that fateful day.

 

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August 3, 2020

EP43: Buried in a Box

In September 1981, in the idyllic village of Eiching, Bavaria, Germany, a 10-year-old girl named Ursula Herrmann was riding her bike home after having dinner at her aunt and uncle’s house. Ursula never made it back to her house and seemed to vanish into thin air. Her parents received two ransom notes and phone calls from the kidnappers but after they agreed to pay the ransom and were working out the details of the ransom drop, the communications suddenly stopped. Searchers, who were combing through the woods after Ursula had been missing for 19 days, found a strange wooden box buried in the woods. When they opened it, the mysterious disappearance of little Ursula only became more puzzling...

 

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https://chaos.press/2019/08/29/a-dead-girl-buried-in-a-box-in-the-woods-part-2-crowdsourcing-the-ursula-herrmann-cold-case/

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In the early ’80s Michael Ryan was the leader of a small group of followers who lived together on an 80-acre hog farm in Rulo, Nebraska. All of the group’s decisions were determined by what they referred to as “the arm test,” which was a means for God to speak to them. Michael, however, didn’t need to use the arm test, as he claimed God spoke directly to him in his mind. By 1985, some of the members began expressing their doubts in the arm test, which Michael said angered God. For the next few months, Michael came up with creative ways of brutalizing and torturing the doubters. This led to the cruel death of 5-year-old Luke Stice. Although Luke’s death was horrendous, it cannot compare to the systematic torture, degradation, and humiliation of James Thimm. Over a period of a few weeks, James was forced into bestiality, starved, and shot. But Michael decided that wasn’t punishment enough for James. So for three days Michael and his followers brutalized James in ways unimaginable. Death had to come as a relief for James because the cruelty this episode discusses is beyond comprehension. Warning: this episode is extremely graphic.
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July 20, 2020

EP41: The Bad Samaritan

On May 27, 1997, 18-year-old Jeremy Strohmeyer was playing games in the arcade of a hotel-casino in Primm, Nevada, about 40 miles south of Las Vegas.  While he is in the arcade, he notices 7-year-old Sherrice Iverson, who is running around the casino unsupervised.  Jeremy and Sherrice start playing hide-and-seek, and their game turns deadly for Sherrice when Jeremy follows her into the ladies’ bathroom. Jeremy’s best friend, David Cash, Jr., who had accompanied Jeremy to the casino that night, follows the two into the bathroom and witnesses the horrors that Sherrice experiences in the last few minutes of her life.  However, David does nothing about it.  Listen to this week’s episode to hear more about the crime and the aftermath caused by the “Bad Samaritan.”

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https://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=3587&context=flr

 

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1999-oct-16-me-22996-story.html

 

https://coffeeordie.com/homicide-detective-most-gruesome-case/

 

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/homicides/in-strohmeyer-case-bad-samaritan-david-cash-led-to-new-law/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CI'll%20(expletive),without%20pushback%20from%20his%20peers.

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July 13, 2020

EP40: Murphys Creek

In 1974, two Australian nursing students, Lorraine Wilson, and Wendy Evans decided to take some time off from their work and studies to travel around Australia.  Unfortunately for the young women, Lorraine’s car broke down in the middle of their vacation and the repair shop said would take over a week to fix it.  Undeterred, the two decided to hitchhike to Brisbane to spend a week with Lorraine’s sister.  As the days passed Lorraine began to grow more concerned that her car wouldn’t be fixed in time for both women to return to work on October 10, 1974.  On October 6, Lorraine and Wendy couldn’t wait any longer for Lorraine’s car to be done so the two set off on foot, hoping to hitchhike their way back home.  They never made it.  Lorraine’s aunt reported them missing on October 12, 1974, but it would take almost 40 years to discover the truth of what happened to these women.  Although there were at least a dozen bystanders that witnessed the crime and over 10 men who participated in the brutal rapes of the women, fear coupled with mistakes made by authorities, allowed the perpetrators to get away with murder and escape justice.   

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Ricochet of Echoes by Eric Wilson

 

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On Friday, July 13, 1990, the body of 32-year-old Barbara George was found in the backroom of her comic book store in Clinton Township, Michigan. Initially, when she was found, it appeared that she had maybe suffered a heart attack or was fatally injured somehow. However, when she was transported to the hospital, a nurse found a bullet wound on her head that had been hidden by her thick hair. Unfortunately, due to lack of physical evidence and very little clues, Barbara’s murder remained unsolved until a cold case unit reignited the investigation and discovered an important clue that had been overlooked.

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https://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/2011/11/michael_george_gets_life_in_pr.html

 

https://www.macombdaily.com/news/comic-book-murder-figure-loses-appeal/article_67c64533-e4db-5dd0-b114-260f00346612.html

 

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/24546594/ns/dateline_nbc-crime_reports/t/closing-book-comic-book-murder/

 

https://patch.com/michigan/clintontwp/dateline-nbc-revisits-comic-book-murder-case-in-clintfb5a7692ca

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In 2004, a film class at Hope College in Holland, Michigan, set out to make a documentary on the 1978 cold case murder of 22-year-old Janet Chandler. Janet was known by her family to be a conservative woman of strong Christian faith and morals, but an investigation into her murder showed there was another side to Janet that she kept hidden from her parents. On a cold January night, while working as the front clerk at the Blue Mill Inn Hotel, Janet was kidnapped. Two days later her naked, brutalized body was found buried in the snow. For almost 30 years, at least 25 witnesses were able to keep secret the horrific details of the last 17 hours of Janet's life. The betrayal, humiliation, and brutality of this crime can not be understated.

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https://www.heraldpalladium.com/localnews/woman-details-murder-plans/article_8ce43ef7-d757-5813-9a50-bdf9f3885ce3.html

 

http://www.delayedjustice.com/

 

https://ellenkilloran.substack.com/p/the-misappearance-of-steven-kubacki-f4a

 

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June 22, 2020

EP37: The Prodigal Son

December 10, 2003 was supposed to be an evening of a wonderful celebration for the Whitaker family.  The family was celebrating the upcoming college graduation of the eldest son, Bart, and the family went to a popular Sugar Land, Texas eatery called Pappadeaux to start the festivities.  When the family returned home, however, they were met with unspeakable terror--there was a man in their home whose plan was to rob the home then execute them all.  When police arrived on the scene, they started to notice the robbery looked staged, and when they started to dig around in Bart’s background, they found things that just didn’t add up to what appeared to happen that night in December. The police would discover a plan that was over two years in the making about a son whose greed for money was more important to him than his own family.

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Savage Son by Cory Mitchell

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In the summer of 1984, 14-year-old Kenny Myers left his home to go for a bike ride when he failed to return, his mother reported him missing.  His strangled body was found 30 miles away in a park.  A year later, 13-year-old Shawn Moore disappeared while riding his bike and like Kenny, his body was found decomposed two weeks later, 150 miles from his house.  Other teen boys reported being kidnapped in a similar fashion, but after their assaults, they were released.  Tips began pouring in and eventually the killer, 26-year-old Ronald Bailey, was arrested.   His background showed a history of kidnapping and homosexual rapes, starting when he was only 13 years old.    Eventually, Ronald opened up to FBI forensic profiler John Douglas about how he chose his victims and his method of murder.  Ronald killed boys that reminded him of his younger self.  He rationalized that If he could kill his teen self, then he could prevent the monster he grew up to be from hurting others.   No one will know the true count of Ronald’s murdered victims, but authorities are convinced Shawn and Kenny weren’t the only ones.

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The Livingston Daily Press

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Journey into Darkness by John Douglas

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June 8, 2020

EP35: The Freezer

On June 2, 1991, in southern California, Denise Huber was getting ready to go to a Morrisey concert with a friend.  After the concert, she and her friend, Rob, went for drinks at a local watering hole.  They invited more friends to join them and the night didn’t end until last call.  Denise dropped Rob off at his house at about 2 am, and she told him she was on her way home.  She was never seen alive again.  Denise car was found on the side of the highway the next day but the police came up short on clues.  It wasn’t until three years later when someone noticed a Ryder truck parked in a driveway in Arizona did the horror of what happened to Denise come to light.

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Cold Storage by Don Lasseter

 

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June 1, 2020

EP34: Casket Closed

Two days before her graduation from high school, 17-year-old Shari Smith was kidnapped from her mailbox. The kidnapper called her family on eight different occasions taunting them and even threatened that Shari's 21-year-old sister, Dawn, would suffer the same fate. Eventually, the perpetrator's phone calls stopped, but his crimes didn't. Two weeks after Shari's disappearance, he called the Smith family again and provided them with the directions to where the body of his newest victim could be found.

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The Rose of Shari Smith by Hilda Smith

Murder in the Midlands by Rita Y. Shuler

 

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May 25, 2020

EP33: Breaking News

On June 27, 1995 a local newscaster from Mason City, Iowa was running late for her 3am call time at her station.  Jodi Husentruit, who had overslept, hurriedly ran out the door of her apartment, got to her car to go to work, and was abducted, never to be seen again. It was about 4:30am and there were no actual eyewitnesses.  Police would arrive to the scene by 7:30am to  find her belongings strewn around her vehicle but there were very little clues to go on.  Nearly 25 years later, Jodi’s abduction is still unsolved.  Join us to hear about the case and possible suspects…what do YOU think happened to Jodi???

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"Dead Air" by Beth Bednar 

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May 18, 2020

EP32: The Xbox Murders

In 2004, a 22-year-old named Erin went to check on her grandmother's winter home in Deltona, Florida, like she often would, just to make sure everything was fine with it.  On July 31st, she discovered she found items at her grandma's house, such as an Xbox, men's clothing, and mail with the name Troy Victorino on it.  She called the police and they told her since the property was at her grandmother's home illegally, Erin could do with it as she wished.  This set off a chain of events that culminated into a crime so brutal that two of the four perpetrators were given death sentences.  This is the story of the inhumane slaughter of six young adults.

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May 11, 2020

EP31: Deadly Injection

In 2006, Chaz Higgs calls 911 to report his wife, Kathy, isn’t breathing and it appears that her heart has stopped.  As a critical care nurse, Chaz tells 911 that he has tried CPR but has had no luck.  Emergency paramedics arrive within a few minutes and miraculously are able to get Kathy’s heart beating – and they rush her to the hospital.  As Kathy lies in a coma, her family wonders how a relatively healthy 50-year-old woman could suffer such a debilitating heart attack out of the blue? When a co-worker of Chaz’s remembers a conversation she had with him about how a perfect murder could be committed with a drug called succinylcholine, she knows she has to say something. Did Kathy suffer a heart attack or is there something much more sinister happening here?

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"Poisoned Love" by Carlton Smith

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